Bizarre Bits - Kate Middleton

0:00 Hey, you're listening to Bizarre Bits, a place where we talk about the strange, the unusual, the unknown in a condensed version because we couldn't make it into an actual episode. So I'm your host Co host Alicia along with. Co host Kevin. Yes. So we're here and we're actually going to talk about the whole idea behind the bits is for us to kind of talk riff off of some really topical items that have struck the bizarre conspiracy world. Yeah. The one that we were talking about today is all of the rumors at rumor mills and speculation and theories surrounding Princess Kate or Princess the Princess of Wales, Kate Middleton. Yeah.

0:47 So I thought I don't know, we'll go through like a timeline and then we'll also talk about the different theories. And then of course, at the time that you're listening to this, we know what the answer is. Or do we? But really we do know the answer, but we just thought we would talk a little bit about about this very topical subject. Right, yeah, there's a lot of weirdness around Kate. I think her and her team bringing on herself a lot of it. Some of it. How much of this is a matter of of them kind of mishandling? Yeah. You know PR. Yeah. Part of his circumstance, we all know she's kind of going through it. So that that's kind of sucks.

1:30 But one of our recent conversations, or one of our recent episodes, was about cloning. Yes, and. We talked about the real validity and ability for us to clone people like we can do it. Yes, it's, it's, it's no longer a thing of like science fiction. No, it's a reality. We can do it. People think that Kate could be cloned. Yeah, they do. And, you know, one of the reasons, OK, let's like maybe go through the timeline of Kate and then we can plug these, like, theories in as we're talking about it. So really, a lot of the speculation was kind of surrounded around the fact that she wasn't seen. OK.

2:13 So December 25th, she was last seen in public of 2023. They have this traditional like, you know, royal walk where they walk to church, like whatever. And she, you know, was dressed to the nines like they always are to make their walk to church on Christmas Day. On January 16th, she's admitted to a London hospital. OK. And they, that's what Kensington Palace says on the 17th, that she was admitted. And people are like, what the Hell's going on? They then the palace comes out and says on the 17th, yeah, she had a successful surgery.

2:57 And people are like, wait, what? Right, exactly. This is not something that we knew about. They said, yeah, that she had a planned abdominal surgery, and she was expected to remain hospitalized 10 to 14 days before, you know, recovering at home. Now, they also said in this piece that she would likely not to resume royal duties until Easter. And this is really what created all the speculation, because she had a ton of royal engagements planned. Her and William, her husband, were supposed to go to Italy and meet the Pope. Yeah. So if this was really planned, then something's off because yeah. Like like check, OK, here, let's add to like the list of like, something's not making sense.

3:47 You know, she had planned abdominal surgery and then she's gone for what, until like at least 10 to 14 days? But it was planned even though it was right in the middle of when they're supposed to like see the Pope, right? They then he, like Prince William is then photographed on the 18th leaving the hospital. And on the 29th, she is discharged from the hospital. Now, once again, this planned abdominal surgery is cutting into royal engagements that they had planned. And she was supposed to. It was planned. Everything went well. She's supposed to just go straight to her, her place.

4:28 That's not what happened, right? She stays in the hospital for 12 days. That's major surgery. Exactly. Who stays? Like I know people who've gotten appendix surgery and are out the same day. Yes, Roy, my husband had pancreatic cancer, had the Whipple procedure. He was in for two weeks. That's hard. I mean that is a serious operation, yes. So to be in there for two weeks. Something's not adding. Up. That's big. This is not planned abdominal surgery, right? This is an emergency. No, it's cloning. It's cloning, right? They needed two weeks to clone her. So like, all of this is happening. People are starting to be whipped into a fervor, saying something's up at what we don't know. But like, the palace is not responding to any rumors. They're, and traditionally they don't. But what's really interesting is they say everything's OK normally.

5:32 Like if there's something like, oh, I don't know, Kate Middleton is having a, you know, love child or something, they'll be like, whatever. Like we don't even need to respond to that. But they're responding saying no, everything's OK. It was a planned. It was planned. She says, thank you, like all's good. February 7th, William starts getting back into the public once again. You only see Will, you don't see Kate. We haven't seen Kate since December 25th. What are they doing right? Are they building a clone? Growing a new Kate? Yeah, a new Kate. We have the capability now. So this rumor mill is rumor milling and it is just getting, you know, more and more right.

6:21 Once again, BAFTA award she always goes to is not there on February 18th, still not resuming her duties. The Palace is not saying exactly. And again, if it was planned, she wouldn't have been planned. Yes yes, she would not have been state slated as attending yes, so our rumor mill continues to grow. It's now it's not just Kate's a clone, it's even more insane theories of where she is. People have actually created a website during this time saying it's a where is katemiddleton.com and it goes through theories of where she is. One like you said, one theory is is she a clone? We haven't seen her.

7:15 She goes to mysterious surgery. Is the mysterious surgery really we killed her for whatever reason and created a clone or she died or whatever people had said one she was fleeing from, you know, royal uncovered royal secrets that she had found out something about the royal family, right? And she's seeking refuge with her children cuz her children also have not been seen since the 25th. And then we get also related to that, the whole weird Photoshop thing that happened where that photo came out. It was everyone realized it was completely Photoshopped. Yes. And you're like, what is going on? Like, are people being, are people are being held captive and we're just photoshopping things together to make us like, happy.

8:01 Like, what's going on? Right, that's that starts like so on March 4th, 2024, there's a picture, you can find it online, of Kate being photographed in a car with her mom. OK, the photograph was not released by or authorized by Kensington Palace, but it was released through like the Daily Mail or something, and everything looks off about it. The face of Kate does not look like her face, OK. It looks like it's a body double. It does not like even her, like mole or whatever, Like you can't really see it in the picture. Her face looks pretty wide and bloated and she's, you know, she's really, really tiny.

8:43 It's because her clone is still growing. Right. Her clone is still growing. So we have a body double. But like this is like that rumor mill. It's like, you know, continuing, even the tires on the car had like there are multiple tires, like 5 tires on that car. So clearly this image had been photoshopped from a prior image. The trees like there are bricks that don't align. It's like all weird. So on March 6th, right after this, you know, unsolicited. Yeah, right. You know that Kensington Palace was like, look, Kate's still alive because people are saying she's not alive anymore, she's a fucking clone or whatever.

9:26 So, so on March 6th, the Palace issues William's response to online speculation about Kate. So they, he said, you know, my, his focus is on his work and not on social media. So once again, Kensington Palace is responding to claims like these insane claims, which they have never done in the past. So it seems like what the hell is going on? There has to be something bigger, a bigger issue that no one's talking about because normally they wouldn't say shit.

10:06 So that picture that you were talking about is released on March 10th. Kate shares a photo and a message on Mother's Day and it's on her like, you know, Twitter, like Instagram or whatever. And it says thank you for your kind wishes and continued support over the last two months, right? Because she's been gone and missing for two months. Let's see. Wishing everyone a happy Mother's Day. And then she put C, like ended up with C. The picture that's posted is a beautiful picture with her and her, you know, three children and they're all smiling and laughing and accredited William as the photographer.

10:49 OK, it's important piece. On March 10th, photo agencies react to Kate's photo and they say that it has been edited. AP actually sends a issues a statement saying the source has manipulated the image in a way that does not meet a PS photo standard, so they have it removed for being fake. Right, right. And there are. You can look online and see multiple like you know hands are misaligning. Oh yeah, they people.

11:33 It's clear. It's clearly not. It's clearly pieced together or how they, you know, when you'd use those brushes where it kind of copies pieces of another photo onto another photo and it's clearly manipulated. It's manipulated. It's incredibly manipulated, yeah. And they issue that like we're removing this and not using, like we're not accepting that this is an actual picture. Like there's something up. Yeah. So then the AP, The Associated Press even gets into it, which once again we're stocking that flame of, of these conspiracy theories. So like, like you were saying, like even on the sleeve of of of her, her daughter, you see what looks like traces of manipulation and it's really just bad Photoshop, right?

12:27 What they are saying is like there are standards with The Associated Press and with sourcing like pictures and because this has been like it's minor adjustments and like little adjustments, but it's not at the standard of although. You can't tell though. Was it minor? That's. Like were these really just minor updates or were literally people put into this photo? Right. Were they all pieced together? Which isn't like common, right? Like even on photo shoots. But there isn't a lot of like like issues and speculation about whether or not she's even alive at this point. People are like, is she dead right? Right. Like like legitimately worried.

13:08 Yeah, like they had like, I think it was like Vogue or Vanity Fair or something. There was a, an image of her face and she was smiling. And they superimpose this image onto the image of this, this release, that Mother's Day picture. It's like spot on. God. It looks exactly the same. So, you know, once again, it was credited. William had taken the picture March 14th. Oh, excuse me, March 11th. Kate actually issues the day after she had released that picture. Kate issues a public apology over the photo, and this is what she says. Like many amateur photo photographers, I do occasionally experiment with editing.

13:53 I wanted to express my apologies for any confusion of the family photograph that we shared. Yes, that we shared yesterday had caused. I hope everyone is celebrating a very happy Mother's Day. OK, so I was just trying to fucking release a picture of her family on Mother's Day. Like she's like, I'm sorry, my bad. Which can we just say how much shit it was because that picture was supposed to be taken by William. He should have said it's my bad. Yeah, agreed. Right, Yeah, but of course no right. Once again, rumor mill is spreading. Did you hear the the story of of like Charles is probably leaving because he's he also is going through cancer treatment this time, right. And they had released, oh, Charles is, has like, you know, is going through cancer treatment and, you know, everything's OK, though.

14:48 So at that time they were saying, well, this is right around the holidays. Is it because Charles is dying and, and like, William is going to be taking the throne. And so Kate is saying, hey, I know that there have been, you've been like cheating on me with this woman called Rose Hanberry. You need to stop cheating on me. And I need to be #1 is that what's happening? And she's actually trying to like, that was another rumor. Is she actually trying to make a case for herself? Because she wants to be the queen. And she has. She knows that he's going to be ascending to the throne soon. So she's taking a final stand a la Princess Diana, giving him him an ultimatum.

15:31 It's either me or this rose chick. And we know with Charles it did not work out well, right? Right. So this is another like piece of what people are talking about the theories. I don't know, I kind of thought that seems pretty plausible. At the time, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah about the cheating. The cheating rumors and like her dealing with that, it seems a little plausible there were also some kind of fucked up rumors about it right? Because people just start making shit up in their head. Well, this is the root of the problem.

16:12 Right. Right. Because you, you can twist a little thing and make it, like you said, make it up in your head and start speculating. And then others start turning that into truth, and then it just propagates into something that's just completely untrue. And unhinged, yes, it just becomes more and more yes, extreme I. Guess big snowball. Right. A la clone. Yeah, you know, right. I mean, how long does it take to make a clone? Good this. Is a good question. It takes a growl to grow a human being. Yeah, are there ways? I'm not going to just like, pop a human being out of a tank.

16:56 Well I'm not kidding you. There are rumors saying that that's exactly what they were doing. They have like 3 clones. 3 Kates. 3 kates that are just there so at all times. They're just on standby. Yeah, just in case something happens, they're just going to pop one out. They have to like, they're just. Standing over there in the in the corner like a Borg in their little charge pod. And then we use our little remote control. We go key #1. Already programmed. We just have to hit that and then and then she starts like cycling through like the aging process and stuff, but like everything's already downloaded in her brain. Exactly.

17:36 Is it so far fetched like the idea that you could do that? Well, so again, this goes back to me saying I don't know what I don't know. And I never would say that's impossible because I think it could be plausible. That's what makes it so fucked up. I know. And like, like the more and more we do these episodes, I'm always like, like the J Rod stuff like that blew my mind. Yes. And I had no idea it even existed. And like, there's like sources, like like, are there things that I don't know 100%? Like there's more I don't know than I have. Like the more I learn, the the less find I find I know right? The more.

18:17 The more plausible weird shit becomes. Yes yeah, because there are there is weird shit that happens all the time that we don't talk about right or or that gets pushed on under the rug. So tech technologically right we have like the neural link yeah. Could it be possible that you could like upload someone's consciousness into? Well, exactly. You know, people dream the stuff up in movies and stuff and then you and then things happen on Star Trek is just a perfect example. Like when Gene Rodberry wrote all of that, that was so far fetched. Like nothing like anything that he developed existed or it was in people's imagination.

19:01 And you look at it today, 80% of that stuff exists. Yeah, yeah. Like Picard's reader, like my, my iPad's actually like titled Picard's tablet. Nice. But like I remember it was like he had back in the day, like in the 90s when this show came out, he had a tablet and he had a library on his, like on that tablet. We have that now. Like I'm currently using one. Like that's what I use for or our podcast. Hello Computer. It's a it's a whole computer, whole ass computer. Talking to computer. And it gives you. Answers gives you immediate. Better, actually. Get it right now? It just heard me.

19:41 Oh my God. So saying all that to say that that's why this weird shit can be plausible, because we don't know everything we. Don't we don't. And like the less information you have, the more wild people's theories can become. So it's like there is some legitimacy behind this. Like people are asking questions, there are no answers from a public figure which the you know, another question that comes up is do we need to know everything about these people? Exactly. Do what do you think? Do you think? We do. We need to know. We don't need to know everything about these people. Like, why do we need to know everything about these people?

20:23 To what advantage, to what purpose is that? You are so not a celebrity like person right like you that. Is so true. Though you are not the target audience, right? No, I'm not. So there are people, there are royalists who I'm sure will listen to this podcast because it has like, hashtag Kate Middleton on it. Yeah. And they'll be like, oh, you're not saying, you know, the Duchess of Whatever or the Princess of Wales, Yes, Her Highness, Yeah. Or Her Majesty, whatever the fuck. You're talking like she's a. A commoner. Commoner. Yeah, it's. Like, well, yeah, she fucking is. She shits just like the rest of us, right? Like just a human. Being she's a human being, but people believe and like put her and these people like these celebrities up on a pedestal and then they become like this God like character that they live vicariously through. So they don't have a life.

21:16 That's what And then that's what too. Does something get dangerous? Gets dangerous is because then they feel like they're owed information their life. Yes, yes, their whole, I mean, let me let me be honest about this. Like I honestly do believe that they are taking taxpayers money like in the UK, right? Like they are, you know, attending these events and probably doing a lot for the, you know, for the UK, but also they get money from. This is true. The people. So like, yes, you are a public figure. You you have like a title and and things like that. Yes, that's true. And you have a responsibility to some extent, right?

21:59 And I think that they do their jobs. They, you know, charity work and they, I mean, they work, right? They people. They work like they're. You're still a human being. There deserves some privacy, and if I'm going to be sick for three months, then let me be sick for three months. Yeah, I mean, I I totally agree. Like they are humans at the end of the day. But if you're a public figure and then you're giving these shoddy ass answers or your team's giving. Shoddy ass answers. True too right? You do? Yeah. I mean you if you work for the people. It's like telling your boss. Like being shady with your boss. Yeah, if you're like, hey, I have hey boss, I have to take three months off. Can't tell you why, but yeah, see ya. Right. I I need to use FMLA, you know, whatever.

22:40 Like, I need to use, like, I need to still collect, you know, some money from it and I'm not going to be working. Yeah. Is there? Is there like, oh, does do these like, public figures who are like, presidents or, you know, political figures? Yeah. Are they owed? Do they owe the people an answer? I think so. And in that respect, they do, yeah. I think they do. And I do think that, like, through all of this, it seems like Kensington Palace really just dropped the ball and kept on fumbling it over and over again. And it's probably because everything that had happened happened so quickly and nobody had any idea. But like, the more and more the stuff comes out, they were also drawing conclusions with another tragedy.

23:25 Like a person who heard Kate Middleton's sister, Pippa Middleton, had dated. They had drawn conclusions that he had actually, like, he had died, he had killed. They say that he had killed himself once again, you know, that's nothing to fuck with. People have mental issues and you know, it's worth it to not do that cause a lot of people would miss you. But he had killed himself around the same time that she had become hospitalized. And they were drawn conclusion saying, was there a torrid affair between the two of them? Was it because, you know, William, you know, was and these are nefarious, you know, rumors that are starting to occur because they're not being straightforward. Was she an A victim of DV of domestic violence? Because William is known to have a temper like that was released in his brother's book, you know, So once again, it's like you're given no information.

24:26 So you're drawing these large conclusions. Are is that correct? Did she pass on and they just don't know how to handle it. I don't know. I I mean, I can see, I can see all of it. And, you know, as I mean, like there was 11 theory that said she was abducted by aliens. Of course. Yeah, of course. And because so she had disappeared so quickly and nobody had talked about what had happened. This was before like the palace had, you know, responded like, oh, we know she was abducted by aliens and that's why. But we know.

25:06 But. We know that can't be true 'cause then she did that speech about her having cancer, so we know she wasn't abducted, right? And there's no way they could have made a clone that fast, I don't think. No. Well, yeah, we don't know. Or, though we don't know. We don't know. We don't have the answer to. That but there are even issues with that that video that she had made. So you know, Kate issued the apology there. Then there's like the news agency agency actually says that Kensington Palace specifically on this Kensington Palace is no longer a trusted source. So because they're fumbling the ball, they're not really telling the truth. And this has been proven. Other news sources are like, we're not going to rely on them and as as an actual news.

25:48 Source new, by the way. There's no way that that's just newly. They're not being honest, sorry. Right. That's and that's a huge point. Historically, Royals have never been honest about their health. No, this is no different. No. We talked about about King Henry the Eighth and Queen Elizabeth. So King Henry the Eighth was he had had, you know, a tumble off of his, you know, off of a horse or something and basically had a concussion. His entire personality changed overnight and he almost died. Like they were amazed that he even survived. He also had like this wound, this festering gang gangreous gangrene wound.

26:30 But every picture that you saw of him made him look like he was healthy, albeit a little chunky, but like, you know, healthy and, you know, very, you know, with it in all of his portraits in reality, very much not the case. Like he had a a temper that it was, it was, you know, Photoshop at that time they were doing. That, yeah. Exactly. Even I think it was like the Russians, they had that disease the last like Russian glass. Tsar Nicholas, his son, would have been the nexar had he not been killed. But he was pictured on like horses and doing all these physical things. He couldn't actually do any of these things because he had that, that inability to clot, like his blood would not clot. So if he fell, he would, he could seriously die a haemophiliac.

27:26 Yeah. So he had that. And like at that time, you know, they didn't release anything. They didn't tell anyone any of this stuff. Of course they lied. Kensington Palace, duh. They lied. You know, it's always a thing. Another thing that they talked about like throughout this whole spiel was there's always photoshopping done in these pictures. Like you were saying with the Queen, she there's a a famous picture right before she had died with all of her grandchildren. Oh, yeah. And like, there's no way you're going to have all like, I don't know, 20 up note 12, whatever they are. It's like it's a bunch of kids. All of them are going to take a decent picture and not be like squirming or doing whatever. Yeah, have it all perfect.

28:09 Yeah, like, you're going to have to, you know, take it in stages and then piece it together and use the best one for each kid. So they're like, of course that's what happened. Like, that's always what happens, but people are just going fucking insane. And then finally Kate is seen by, I think it was like TMZ who released a video. Do you remember that? Video the one where she's walking with her husband. Yes, with the coffee or something like. That yeah, she like has a coffee or like a bag or something. And it's walking, yes. And you see it and it looks pretty casual, but you know that they were probably called to have her. Make an appearance. Make an appearance, yes, but it created even more controversy. It did?

28:55 Yeah. What was it? It was something of, yeah, there's something strange about it, like they weren't talking or what was something, what was it? Like she, I think it was like the way she smiled was not like the way that she would normally spot smile. And like it seemed like she was kind of cheating for the camera and her walk was kind of funky and she looked really, really like thin. Although you like unhealthy. Part of me goes where are people just trying to find shit to be weird, you know what I mean? Yes, could be that too. I mean, they're going to find anything this is released, right? Cuz Kensington Palace is probably thinking, well we're really fucking this one up.

29:38 Maybe we'll just contact TMZ and have them or have a news agency or this paparazzi that we know have them like take this video and it's going to be really short. And at least they know that she's, you know, she's there because now Associated Press is saying we're not a reliable news source. So we can't even release any information. Like, you know, they're they're kind of between a rock and a hard place. So it would make sense why they would do it, right? So it's released and there's even more controversy, like you were saying, and then the news comes out, or right before that, actually, there's some news coming out about hospital staffers trying to find her medical information.

30:20 Like it was flagged in their system. They were investigated for trying to access her private medical records, which that's not good. No, that's illegal. Like beyond illegal. Yes, I know she's a like a public person, but nobody's medical records should be released. Nobody's how much. Money do you think they would make if they could release it like those? That's why they were doing it, yeah, because there's probably some ungodly number. What would you guess? Millions. Yeah. Yeah, I know these news organizations would pay millions. For sure. Yes, This is exactly what's wrong with her. Or this is, you know, whatever. Yeah.

31:01 So March 22nd of this year, 2024, Kate publicly reveals her cancer diagnosis and she says that she had abdominal surgery. So again, complete speculation totally. I. Just, I just told you my husband had pancreatic cancer, that abdominal surgery was severe. He was in the hospital for a couple of weeks. Could it be that? I mean, they didn't, that's the thing. It's cancer. It's abdominal surgery. Long surgery, long good recovery. And what?

31:45 I don't know what it is now, but like pancreatic cancer used to be a death sentence. Yes, yes. Well, depending on the stage, it still is. It still is. Yes, if you can get being caught early enough. And Roy's was caught early. Enough Roy's was a 2B, OK. I think if you get like threes and fours like you're, it's like your chance. I think our even with a 2B, it's like a 510% chance, it's still very, very low chance that you're going to survive. It's just a bad cancer. So I, you know, it's, but it work, it's successful. And I think that Whipple is a big, big part of it, but it's such an aggressive surgery.

32:27 Yeah. I mean they you're taking out chunks of like 6 organs, it's terrible. So I don't know, it could be that. It could be that and like, at least you have that. So so let's say, let's say, you know, speculation, right? If if you release and say the exact type of cancer. Yes, that you have, yes. And you're saying, oh, it's actually pancreatic cancer, people are going to freak the fuck out. Right, Yes, hence they're being big. Yes, yes, yeah. And being vague because often times like let's say it's like if if you're asking me total speculation, once again, no, no proof. I have no proof.

33:09 And you know, if she did have an abdominal surgery, there's also like colon cancer, right? Or like where they have to actually remove your colon and you have then like a bag. Oh yeah, yeah. Often times, so like you don't like that holds, like, you know, your waste, your human waste both 1:00 and 2:00, but that human waste is basically it's like a stoma. So you have like a hole like in your abdomen that you know has like kind of a shit bag or like pea bag, you know, on there. That's not very princessy.

33:51 That's not very cute. That is not what a Princess has. That's not what a queen has, right? So like, why would you ever? Say it. Yes, which would make sense. She's and she's always been so thin almost like she's not gotten nutrients, you know like maybe she's not having a hard time. Her body's having a hard time, you know, actually keeping holding on to what she's eating, which would make sense with that kind of. Stuff. Or maybe she's not a fully developed clone. Exactly. I mean, but that's like, it's like you really have to be. These are real people, right? Yes, well, we think. She could be.

34:32 Although we had this discussion, a clone is a person too. That's right, a clone is a person too. They are hashtag clone rights. Exactly. So I mean, I think you just have to be so careful because you really don't know what people are going through. That's exactly right. And I think that it's really great that we have these conversations around like, you know, clones and or excuse not clones that we have conversations around like the dangers of conspiracy theories and going down these rabbit holes because you can one, just damage people in general. But although fun, I think good conspiracy theory. That's why we're both here.

35:17 They're fun. They can be incredibly dangerous and do a lot of of hurt. They can do They can, like clone Snowball. It's totally, yeah, snowball effect and like the clone stuff, the alien stuff, it's fun. But in reality, you have like, our real answer is that there's a mother of three that could potentially be in a really bad health place. Precisely. So. Precisely. Anyways, I guess it was fun talk, giving a little bit of little bite, little yeah into that and trying out a new format too, like, you know, this is something where like, yeah, topical stuff is a lot easier, yeah. Just quick little discussions. Yeah. Good. OK. Well, yeah, thanks for the bits. Yeah, thanks guys.

36:00 You know, we'll probably be doing more bits in the future. Yay. Yay. See ya, see ya. Bye.